The Shevatim
You might rememer when I posted about the whole Dina-Sh'chem thing, I had said that I realized she was 6 when he raped her, and figured it out from just doing math. Well, I got a source. The Midrash in [Maseches] Sofrim, 21:9 says, "Dina was 6 years old when Sh'chem raped her." I think that's pretty concrete, right?
While flipping through the sefer I found this in (Ishei Tanach--it compiles all midrashim and gemaras about every person in tanach), I was looking up the shevatim, and with every single one, there is a medrash that states every shevet's birthday. Here's the list:
Reuven - 12 Kisleiv
Shim'on - 28 Teiveis
Levi - 16 Nissan
Yehuda - 15 Nissan
Dan - 9 Elul
Naftali - 5 Tishrei
Gad - 10 MarCheshvan
Asher - 20 Sh'vat
Yissa[s]char - 10 Av
Zevulun - 7 Tishrei
Yoseif - n/a
Binyamin - 11 MarCheshvan
Ok, so not all of them, I kind of forgot about Yoseif, I couldn't find his birthday. So that answers the question about the shevatim being born early.
There's a new book out (at least here) called The Shevatim, where it goes through all of them, goes through their brachos from Ya'akov and Moshe and compares them. In the beginning of them book, there's about a page and a half on each sheivet, and the first thing on each one, there's a grey box with the sheivet's Hebrew and English birthday (both date and year), and maybe other stuff. It looked cool, check it out.
I bet it has Yoseif's birthday...
While flipping through the sefer I found this in (Ishei Tanach--it compiles all midrashim and gemaras about every person in tanach), I was looking up the shevatim, and with every single one, there is a medrash that states every shevet's birthday. Here's the list:
Reuven - 12 Kisleiv
Shim'on - 28 Teiveis
Levi - 16 Nissan
Yehuda - 15 Nissan
Dan - 9 Elul
Naftali - 5 Tishrei
Gad - 10 MarCheshvan
Asher - 20 Sh'vat
Yissa[s]char - 10 Av
Zevulun - 7 Tishrei
Yoseif - n/a
Binyamin - 11 MarCheshvan
Ok, so not all of them, I kind of forgot about Yoseif, I couldn't find his birthday. So that answers the question about the shevatim being born early.
There's a new book out (at least here) called The Shevatim, where it goes through all of them, goes through their brachos from Ya'akov and Moshe and compares them. In the beginning of them book, there's about a page and a half on each sheivet, and the first thing on each one, there's a grey box with the sheivet's Hebrew and English birthday (both date and year), and maybe other stuff. It looked cool, check it out.
I bet it has Yoseif's birthday...
posted by Karban Nesanel at 09:37
3 Comments:
why do you translitrate stuff really weirdly? is it to make us think you are secretly an academic intellectual? you are a strange person.... :-)
Dude - time to update your profile, now that you're coming home for the summer, and going back...
U dont know the 12 tribes very well either- first of all Yosef's b-day has nothing to do with him being a tribe or not it can be figured out just like the other 12 sons and (Tonny this is for u, i did the hard work for u ) his b-day is rosh chodesh tamuz in the year 2199 in the jewish calendar.
And about the Reuven thing u said-thats not true either. It's true that Reuven was punished fot what he did with Bilhah but that didnt stop him from being a tribe. He is mentioned as a tribe in all the torah. There are two different ways for the number of tribes to come out 12 and not 13 (and it's not the reason u have mentioned). one way is either levi is included as a tribe and then yosef is included as well. OR-levi is not counted (becasue he had not received any land) and yosef is replaced by the names of his 2 sons.
Q.E.D.
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